clangstaff Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I've created a ticket on the ideas portal which would be great if we could get some votes on it. When bulk downloading files from an assignment the files are currently named with the students username. We would like to change this to the students actual name as usernames mean nothing to staff and this is causing them loads more work. http://ideas.frogcommunity.com/ideas/FRG-I-1051 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Quince Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Valid point. I'll also mention this internally. No of votes helps, but it's not the only metric our product team use to determine what changes are made. I think we went with usernames to begin with because it's possible two students in the same class could have the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sorry to bring this back up.... but back in the good old days of Frog 3.............. each kid would have a folder created for them with their username and name on it!!! Much easier if kids are handing in multiple files in one hand in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 @Graham Quince have you any update on this? As suspected now we've done a school wide launch of logging homework on Frog we have some very disappointed teachers who now have 100's of files submitted to them with no way of quickly identifying who created each one. Surely this is a quick fix and should have been included in Dickens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Quince Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Hi @clangstaff, I've had no update on this i'm afraid. The Product Team aren't around today, but I'll chase them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Graham Quince said: Hi @clangstaff, I've had no update on this i'm afraid. The Product Team aren't around today, but I'll chase them. Come on Frog... this just seams like another no brainer... a username on a file... or a folder with name and username like we used to have!!!! Good old Frog 3!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Quince Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I remember teachers complaining about the folders at my old school. it was extra clicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Graham Quince said: I remember teachers complaining about the folders at my old school. it was extra clicks The less said about your old school the better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Graham Quince said: I remember teachers complaining about the folders at my old school. it was extra clicks I'd agree with that - no need for folders just name the file appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Quince Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just for conversation/curiosity, what format do your usernames take which means your teachers cannot identify the author based on username? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 @Graham Quince At North Huddersfield we use 'nhts intakeyear firstinitial last initial' e.g nhts16ah At Holmfirth we use 'intakeyear random3numbers tutorsinitials' e.g 16845cl Neither of these a recognisable to staff and the only potential solution we have is to hand out lists of usernames to all teachers which is both time consuming to arrange but also for teachers to check. I'd be surprised if many secondary schools used instantly recognisable usernames for their students. At North Huddersfield we in some cases have several students in the same year group with exactly the same name which would still cause confusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 We use first letter of first name, first letter of second name and then the next available no... eg AA100!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 @clangstaff @Graham Quince Hello everyone, I've had a look into this one, and have come up with a solution. When downloading from assignment manager the files will be structured as below. Each student gets their own folder, and all the files they had have submitted are inside those folders. At the top level is the assignment name (ignore the duplicate 'volcanos' folder at the very top - that's just how I unzipped the folder). The folders are named with the students display name + their username in brackets afterwards (in case of duplicate names within a class). I've passed it onto our testing people here, who will give it a good bashing to make sure I haven't broken anything, and if they are happy then we'll get this out ASAP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmclaughlin Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) @adamw I would love it if you could use the surname, given name. These are two different fields and it would allow my teachers to grade and put it in gradebooks so much better. Matt Edited March 6, 2017 by mmclaughlin hit enter to fast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Frog 3 is Username (Surname, Forename)... just saying!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 @adamw Great! This will solve teachers a lot of hassle. Does the filename keep it's original name (the name given by the student) in this solution or would this still be renamed? From teacher feedback a number have mentioned that surname should take priority over forename however, if both were displaying I wouldn't be too worried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmclaughlin Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 @ADT I really would love surname, firstname, filename 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Surname first would be best... Registers are done by surname... mark books... so the folder should be!! I agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I've altered it to be surname_forename(username) is that better? Also, underscores in the names or spaces? I went with underscores, but that's just my personal dislike of spaces in folder names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 21 hours ago, clangstaff said: Great! This will solve teachers a lot of hassle. Does the filename keep it's original name (the name given by the student) in this solution or would this still be renamed? @clangstaff The files are no longer renamed, they keep the original name that was given by the students - they don't have the students name added to them as they did before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADT Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, adamw said: I've altered it to be surname_forename(username) is that better? Also, underscores in the names or spaces? I went with underscores, but that's just my personal dislike of spaces in folder names Comma... Doe, Jane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 @adamw Awesome looks good to me - thanks for the quick turnaround - teachers will be pleased with this one. With regards to getting this implemented do you think it will be feasible to add as a quick update or are we going to be waiting for potentially the summer release? Just so I can let staff know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmclaughlin Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Thank you I really appreciate the move toward surname first. It makes it so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 22 hours ago, clangstaff said: @adamw Awesome looks good to me - thanks for the quick turnaround - teachers will be pleased with this one. With regards to getting this implemented do you think it will be feasible to add as a quick update or are we going to be waiting for potentially the summer release? Just so I can let staff know! Sorry for the delay in responding, I wasn't in yesterday. I've spoken to the guys here, and it probably won't be in for the Dickens release, but it looks like there will be an interim release a few weeks after Dickens, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to get it in for that one. Of course there is the usual caveat of 'if everything goes according to plan' Adam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangstaff Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 2017-3-10 at 10:11, adamw said: Sorry for the delay in responding, I wasn't in yesterday. I've spoken to the guys here, and it probably won't be in for the Dickens release, but it looks like there will be an interim release a few weeks after Dickens, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to get it in for that one. Of course there is the usual caveat of 'if everything goes according to plan' Adam @adamw @Graham Quince Have we any update on when this may be released we've gone well passed a a few weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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