pconkie
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This is the guidance we have issued to staff:
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We have a bit of an organic approach - which can at times be confusing for students. Given school closures and 'remote learning' it has become far more important that this is clear and easy to get. Most of that is down to us as a school to get our guidance right, however, there may be things that could be changed/improved that would also help.
Currently our staff are using a mixture of:
- The feedback application (which more people would use if it more reliably converted documents or allowed line breaks in comments) but when it does work the stickers are great and audio feedback is supported! Feedback in this way get's flagged in lots of places with the "Purple pen icon".
- The message wall on the assignment - this is good for two way dialog but could do with more space to type and a message delete button. It does support line breaks in the messages! Feedback in this way get's flagged in some places with the "blue number icon".
- The comments box on the bottom of the assignment - when a comment is written in this box it doesn't get flagged (a real benefit of the first two). Staff need to tell students to look or students need to look in every assignment.
In addition I don't think we have pushed the assignments app enough (not since current assignments were introduced into the frog bar), so a lot of students fall at the first hurdle when trying to find their feedback. The assignments calendar widget helps a bit with this, but it only has flags for feedback via #1 above. The assignments app has flags for #1&2 above, but the tabbed layout (open, handed in, closed) - which really helps staff organise their assignments - again gets in the way of finding feedback for some students.
The ideal for me would be:
- something like the assignment calendar widget with a month view or list view
- which flags all three methods of feedback above (or at the very least the first two to bring it in line with the assignments app)
- has a filter that can be set to only show assignments with one or more of these types of feedback
Thoughts?
Also why is there sometimes no feedback button on uploaded documents with the purple pen icon?
Take this as an example...
Clicking on Trigonometry...
Gives me feedback buttons to press, But clicking on 'First task'...
No feedback button. Student has to go into assignments app, find the assignment in hundreds of others in the 'handed in' tab and then they can press the feedback button!
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35 minutes ago, ADT said:
Ah so we aren't talking about linking to an asset on a site.... like a file in a file drop widget!!
Yes, we are, but you shouldn't need the file extension. Try taking the extension off your example - it should still work!
@adamw I tried with my admin account and it still gave me the permission error.
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We have some direct links to files that have been uploaded as site assets.
e.g. we upload a word document and use a text widget to serve it via its link: https://froglearn.backwellschool.net/app/file/resource/15F2D9232003061952ADCF6034A2C9046E21F56CFF133428
In the past this has allowed us to quickly put lots of files up into a site.
Despite this working for years and despite users having the correct view permissions to the site they have been uploaded to, the links no longer work. We get a you are not authorised to access this page message. Is this a result of a recent change? Many hours of work would be lost of we needed to re-upload these files individually into file link widgets.
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I'd like to hear from people about their 'remote learning' strategies. Assuming your strategy has frog at it's center, what have you done about:
- expectations around frequency of work set - does this differ for different year groups?
- what will students hand in (if anything)
- what are your expectations around feedback? have you prescribed how this should be done by staff?
- what other software/platforms are you using with frog? Teams? Google? Office 365?
- how are you monitoring all of this from staff and students perspectives? Is this through assignment monitor or is there a more useful report we could ask frog to think about?
Thanks
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39 minutes ago, pdurber said:
Here's the first 2 students data
{
"Q933202808019": [
{
"Date": "24/02/2020",
"Time": "09:00",
"ClassCode": "En",
"CompTitle": "English Literature paper 1 - Shakespeare and the 19th Century novel",
"Duration": 105,
"Room": "Futures Exam Hall",
"Seat Number": ""
},
{
"Date": "25/02/2020",
"Time": "09:00",
"ClassCode": "Fr",
"CompTitle": "French - French Writing",
"Duration": 120,
"Room": "Northcote Exam Hall",
"Seat Number": ""
},
When i paste this into an Exam Timetable widget i don't get the same as what is shown in your video. The Code and Seat columns show "undefined". Which is the same as the pdf error message, which I can now replicate. In the data above 'ClassCode' should be 'CompCode' and 'Seat Number' should be 'Seat'.
Also the duration's need to be treated like text. This means they need to be wrapped in quotation marks,
Once i make these changes the pdf is produced despite the seats being blank!
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1 hour ago, pdurber said:
Thanks for the excellent instructions. Below is the screenshot.
Interesting. Can you paste a small sample of the data pasted into the widget? (Maybe the first student will be enough - you can change the upn to keep it anonymous). Still think it is to do with the seat....
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Go the whole way @Graham Quince and allow items to be dragged and dropped into a bespoke order!
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I can't replicate this issue. At first I thought it might be related to not having seats in the imported data, but i tried it on my platform with no seats and the pdf was created as expected.
What error messages are in the console window? In Chrome click on the three dots top right --> more tools --> developer tools. Switch to the console tab. Click the pdf button and then post a screen shot of any message(s) that appear.
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32 minutes ago, gbligh said:
If I log in as a parent, then share a screenshot of the console, would that help?
It might
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10 minutes ago, gbligh said:
I would do this however I have no knowledge of what I"d be looking for in the console!
The console would normally be blank. Unless there is a problem and then there could be a red error message
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Not AWOL, just OFSTED. Anyway frogcode is bust at the moment so waiting for that fix first!
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On 31/01/2020 at 16:35, gbligh said:
Had a few parents say their latest report isn't showing - I logged in as a few and can confirm it. It looks like it's not showing the latest report - @pconkie
Not sure if it's just us?
I can't replicate this - the most recent set of reports we did was 23/01/20 and these are appearing for parents. There have been some weird things happening since the patch last week - have you done any reports since then? Are there any error messages in the console (right click -> inspect --> console tab) that could shed any light?
Even if the problem was obvious, FrogCode was broken last Wednesday, so I don't even have a way of fixing the issue!
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So how would i/could i go about using frog authentication for an external app?
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Is the information in the FDP docs (circled in red below) up to date? My frog server doesn't seem to have the urls mentioned and there is talk of a toolkit which makes me think of frog3!
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6 hours ago, pdurber said:
So now, shame-facedly I have to say I can now see the read receipts.
I hope you've not spent any time trying to fix something that wasn't actuslly broken - sorry. User Error.
Was about to! But thought I’d check back here first..... to be fair it has become quite difficult to follow this thread now and work out exactly why you have to do! Glad it is working.
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36 minutes ago, pdurber said:
Thank you for giving your time to this.
Just a small question about the reporting widget. in the "Name of the report" field, do I need to put part of the filename that the parents see, or part of the filename that it is called in the Parent Manager?
So if the parents see the name as "Report 19-20 Y10 PC1 for <student name>" and in parent manager it is seen as "49c15f91<student name>-012529-Y10 PC1.pdf" What do I type into the reporting field?
Cheers
In this case you should use “19-20 Y10 PC1” as the name of the report.
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I’ll check that the Beethoven release didn’t break it. There is no special role that parents need to have.
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Thanks @Graham Quince I’ve actually found where it was moved to (and fixed the bug) and got the functionality back in the various apps and widgets that we’re using it. Only remaining issue is with the ckeditor as mentioned above. Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks.
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Since the update we have had some parents tell us they didn't get an email about their child's detention. Too many parents have said this to be the usual junk email issue. However, there is no apparent error when we scrutinise the frogcode widget.
I've therefore done some more testing with the following:
FrogOS.fdp({ url: 'email/sendmessage', path: '/api/fdp/1/', type: 'POST', data: { subject: 'Call Out', message: 'Test Message', to: "pconkie@backwellschool.net" } }).done(function(thisResponse) { this.hideLoader() }.bind(this)).fail(function(e) { var error = JSON.parse(e.responseText); var error_msg = error.response.message + "<BR/>Failed to send email" this.hideLoader(); this.modal("There has been an error", error_msg, "modal-4FDC8814200489BB58471FBB81DE9B03CD461BECB489AFEC", null, false); }.bind(this));
I get a success confirmation in the console
However the email never arrives. Are there logs that can shed more light on this?
This is an urgent issue for us.
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Just one more thing and all will be fixed and back working....
The CKEDITOR is no longer loaded when frog first opens. So my app (which sends messages to parents about detentions) breaks unless I open up something that uses the editor first. This is the code which was working in the last release to render the Ckeditor in a widget.
steal.import('public/js/libs/ckeditor/ckeditor').then(function() { CKEDITOR.config.skin = "frogos"; CKEDITOR.disableAutoInline = true; CKEDITOR.config.allowedContent = true; CKEDITOR.config.scayt_sLang = 'en_GB'; CKEDITOR.config.scayt_autoStartup = true; CKEDITOR.config.removePlugins = 'elementspath'; CKEDITOR.config.resize_enabled = false; CKEDITOR.config.height = 260; }.bind(this));
I've tried a few things, but no luck. I get error message in the console - CKEDITOR is not defined. How can i load the editor when needed?
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The client side tabler sorter seems to have been removed in Beethoven. In the past $(this).tablersorter() used to turn any table into a sortable table. Has this been replaced with anything? and if so how can I use it to get this functionality back?
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@Tom The latest version on my server has the fixes required for the changes to jquery introduced in Beethoven (I think). The one on this test platform https://backwell.frogosdev.co.uk (which i can no longer access btw) has it at any least.
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2 hours ago, gbligh said:
Hi @pconkie - is the attendance register ready to share yet? It's amazing
Sorry George it's undergoing a major change over the holidays (which i've already started) and so it's not in a fit state to share at the moment.
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@ADT @gbligh Sorry for the delay - simple fix - i'd just forgotten to actually make that button do anything!
Works now!
@Graham Quince can you update the widget? Version 7 on my box is latest.
Thanks!